Huggie’s Dad, Butcher’s Bunny, Gen V cameos and The Boys editor on V52

spoiler ALERT, This story contains spoilers from “The Boys” Season 4, Episode 5, which recently streamed on Amazon Prime Video.

Life Homelander (Antony Starr) and Supers Vought’s V52 went to participate in the fan tournament (shouldn’t have happened). anyhow In this presented episode of “The Boys” inspired by Disney’s 23), Butcher (Carl City), Frenchy (Tomer Capone) and Corporate team up with a group of unstable, dangerous cattlemen to discover a super-killing virus. Did.

Between those two wild plot issues was a serious story: Hughie (Jack Quaid) and his recently returned mother Daphne (Rosemary DeWitt) are saying goodbye to Hugh Sr. (Simon Pegg) after Hughie tells his father the same thing happened. Gave him a pain-free death to get him out of his new predicament. During the episode, Hugh Sr. struggles to keep track of the destructive phasic force energy he receives after Daphne gives him Compound V to bring her out of hibernation. Hugh Sr. inadvertently murdered more than one person within the clinic, spending a month in a comatose environment.

Here, “The Boys” showrunner Eric Kripke breaks down the unwatched episode 5 of season 4 of “The Boys,” titled “Beware of the Jabberwock, My Son” — including a “Gen V” cameo.

Let’s start with the scenes of flying, bloody compound v’d-up cattle, the month the boys are exploring the super virus lab on Stan Edgar’s (Giancarlo Esposito) estate. How much of it was practical, if at all, and what kind of visual effects was there?

There used to be very little intelligence. Despite being Stephen Fleet, the bull used to be real And his VFX segment made it even angrier – it was actually a very cute animal. The chickens were mostly real, except once when they were tearing apart the country’s chest. And the sheep, outside of that one shot where the barn door opens and two sheep walk in – I think that’s the only generation that had actual sheep in that series. Credit galore to our gorgeous VFX workforce, because sculpting a believable-looking beast from scratch isn’t easy, and what a completely new monster it is. Giving it baboon teeth was Stephen’s idea – it was given the baboon’s jaws, and that’s what gives it its sharp teeth and its menacing appearance.

The Butcher has a different connection to the bunny, as he was being experimented on with the Temp V – the object that resulted in the Butcher’s catastrophic analysis – and was freed., Moving forward he attacks it to kill it, when he sees tentacles coming out of the rabbit’s stomach. We know he was having the same thoughts as Butcher, so what can you tease about what that means for Butcher, and why Butcher had such a strong reaction to it?

It doesn’t make the rest of us heartless, okay. I don’t want to give away spoilers, but I believe The Butcher is actually a creation that marvels at what’s happening to him, and marvels at how he came to explode Ezekiel. And this rabbit’s foreboding is negligible.

Sometime later, Butcher cuts off the leg of Vought scientist Samir – Victoria Newman’s boyfriend and Zoe’s father in pleasure – and kidnaps him along with Kessler. That tough decision by Butcher to protect Samir from additional super viruses was in line with Bunny’s fate – and paired him with Ryan (Cameron Crovetti). Moving on to the dull side with Homelander in this episode?

This is really an enlightening level. The story for him in this episode is him trying to stay on the straight and narrow in his quest to be trustworthy to his workforce. However what’s happening after the bunny and in it – and possibly Him – really, really shakes him up, and makes him feel more desperate. So, he brings Kessler into the equation, and cuts off a man’s leg to protect his track, which is surprisingly not a rational habit. I believe he is really upset, and scared about what might happen to him.

Huge energy from Hughie’s dad – there’s always a quality in the way you all decide what the energy of a personality will be. What was the option here for what Hugh Sr. would get if he took a dose of V at the clinic?

We really like it when powers can mimic their mental environment, or some of their deepest unconscious. I believe it was like a lesson learned on “Gen V” that really worked well for us. So we really got into this idea of ​​him being that, as far as him dating his estranged wife, he felt really insignificant. His command is, “You will see through me, as if I were invisible to you.” So giving him an effect that solidified that metaphor was something we were really thinking about.

It’s very clever, but it definitely says one thing about the Campbell DNA that Hughie’s power is a teleporting power and Pop’s power is like a phasing power – but the two are cousins ​​in some way. It used to be in the same ballpark. In our minds, the trait that gives you is some combination of V and your DNA. And so if his DNA matches his father’s, it stands to reason that his father’s energy will likely match.

Moving on to the very scary thing with Hughie and his father: I’m going to call it the euthanasia scene. How did you choose Hughie to try it out?, And the painting with Jack Quaid and Simon Pegg based on that scene?

From the beginning we wanted to create a model of that scene. Hughie is really moving at this pace, and actually removing ownership or control of the network is something that a bunch of kids grow out of – kind of at that pace when their people are taking care of them, essentially. From, they’re taking good care of their people. Everyone is trying to get through it, and it’s a really common, painful experience. And it’s that dynamic that causes a lot of people to say, “Oh yes, that’s when I really grew up, when I became my own parents.” I assumed that this was actually a normal thing for Hughie to overcome, and also a difficult one.

Having discussed this season, the thing about Hughie is that we’re dealing with everyone’s core trauma, and his biggest illness is his inability to let anyone out. And he’s really learning this season by forgiving A-Teach and forgiving his mother and really letting go of his father, he’s really learning how to mature. They start the episode with her father saying, “You’re still the same kid who can’t let go of the cat.” And we end the episode with Hughie moving on and making difficult choices that the alternately used community contributors haven’t been able to put together. So this shows him moving towards true maturity.

Introducing Kate Dunlop (Maddie Phillips), the character from “Gen V.”, and Sam Riordan (Asa German), For a cameo in this episode. Why did you choose to pass on “The Boys” Season 4 just now? And What does his appearance give us about what’s happening in the Flow timeline at Godolkin College – and where will the alternate “Gen V” characters be at this point?

Now V52 made sense based on the story, and Homelander should serve as V52’s guard so that other superheroes like him can be created to form this army. And it made sense that Kate, who may also be a supreme supremacist, would want to enroll in it. I believe Sam is a little more reluctant, but he doesn’t really talk about his personal reviews either – he wants to get into that as a character too.

However, in this case, as is traditional in the Vought universe, the characters who were actually the villains of that dynamic, Kate and Sam, are packaged as Vought’s heroes, and they are given a movie and There are brand new categories of status, while the real heroes of that movement are locked away in some invisible places that will be visible for “Gen V” Season 2. Simply our matching message is that being a hero is often an unknown, thankless factor, and when you are held up as a hero, often you are the rest.

Homogeneous of V52 – which is clearly Completely Unrelated to any real-life tournaments an organization does – have you ever heard from anyone at Wonder, either complimentary or aloof, about inside jokes performing at this level?

I heard very casually and anecdotally that Wonder’s executives observed and liked the performance. Although I wasn’t given a name or a person – just someone talked to me about it. I believe it will end with laughter. As I mentioned, I oversee all of the Wonder movies. I dig them. It’s just the sheer amount of content that is negligible for entertainment.

Through V52, he outlined the initiatives in levels 7-19 of the Vought Cinematic Universe. How many of these titles are going to be Vought+ exclusive, and how many are coming to theaters?

Smartly, let’s be fair, at least a portion of them will be relegated to write-offs, and then a number will exit on WATCH+, and then only a few will hit theaters. That seems to be how business is these days.

This interview has been edited and condensed.